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    January 21, 2008

    More addition, not division

    Posted by: Chris

    539w Twice today, Barack Obama reminded us that he is not only willing to talk more often to general election audiences about equality for gay, but in admonishing evangelicals -- black and white -- for mistreatment of gays. First in his uplifting address at the Ebeneezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, where he said:

    For most of this country's history, we in the African-American community have been at the receiving end of man's inhumanity to man. And all of us understand intimately the insidious role that race still sometimes plays - on the job, in the schools, in our health care system, and in our criminal justice system.

    And yet, if we are honest with ourselves, we must admit that none of our hands are entirely clean. If we're honest with ourselves, we'll acknowledge that our own community has not always been true to King's vision of a beloved community.

    We have scorned our gay brothers and sisters instead of embracing them. The scourge of anti-Semitism has, at times, revealed itself in our community. For too long, some of us have seen immigrants as competitors for jobs instead of companions in the fight for opportunity.

    (Video of the speech is available on the jump.)

    Then tonight, in the rough and tumble South Carolina debate, Obama talked about how Democrats have not reached out to evangelical voters. And he made clear that in doing so, he would continue to call them for their opposition to gay rights.

    When have we heard Hillary Clinton speak out like that -- much less her attack-dog spouse?

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    1. Geena The Transgirl on Jan 21, 2008 10:48:42 PM:

      I give, I watched the CNN debate tonight. Sorry Hillary folks, but Hillary was a cheap petty woman.
      The Borg must die.
      I just made my first donation to Obama.

    1. Michael Bedwell on Jan 22, 2008 4:40:54 AM:

      You left out that Obama announced during his Martin Luther King, Jr., birthday celebration appearance at the latter’s former Atlanta church that he was going on a water-only fast until DOMA and DADT are repealed and a trans-inclusive ENDA is law? That he and his wife would separate until gays can marry in every state? That several in the congregation swear he levitated two-feet off the ground and a wondrous light appeared around his head? That were it not a Baptist church, he’d have turned water into wine?

      Of course, none of this happened; in fact, he didn't even do what you claim he did, "talk ... about equality for gay[s]." Yes, as he's done before, he dropped the G-word. But he simply said they should, rather than "scorning" gays, embrace us. That’s certainly true, even touching, but, in the absence of saying anything more, any in his audience who wanted to could hear it as just another variation on "hate the sin; love the sinner." I don't need a hug, Senator. I need someone to tell everyone that homophobia is WRONG, and to identify how he'll fight for gay equality not just smile fuck me about what you "support."

      I'll wait to see a clip or transcript of the debate to compare/contrast it to Partisan Crain's characterization of that.

      As for "When have we heard Hillary Clinton speak out like that"—how about in November in conservative Iowa, at the all-important annual Jefferson-Jackson Dinner, where she told the 9000 attendees: “And we Democrats, we believe in labor rights and women's rights and gay rights, and civil rights.” Repeat, gay rights not gay hugs. When Obama addressed a huge rally the night before the Iowa caucuses, the word “gay” was nowhere to be heard, in ANY context. Some say it was the speech that won him that contest. How much did Hillary promoting gay RIGHTS in her speech weeks before play in her loss?

      Can't you access Google from South America or do you not care to back up your hyperbole with facts?

    1. Craig Ranapia on Jan 22, 2008 5:51:49 PM:

      Michael:

      I'd rather get 'smile-fucked' by Obama than a 'second verse, same as the first' Clinton Administration, Part Deux. But I guess DADT and DOMA is part of that 'experience' we hear so much about that Clintonistas just lie about when they deign to face unpleasant realities at all.

    1. Craig Ranapia on Jan 23, 2008 6:48:38 AM:

      And don't say I do nothing for you, Michael, but here's the URL to a (as far as I can see) fair and even-handed reality check on the charges BOTH Clinton and Obama were flinging at each other during the S.C. debate.

      http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/clinton-obama_slugfest.html

      (Hat-tip to Andrew Sullivan, fellow Hillary-hating Obamamaniac)

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