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    April 11, 2009

    Has Rick Warren changed his view on gay marriage?

    Posted by: Andoni

    Evangelical preacher Rick Warren claimed on Larry King Live earlier this week that he was not a proponent of Prop 8. This has stunned fellow evangelical leaders. Warren's words seem at odds with a video he sent to his parishioners just before the November election asking them to vote for Prop 8.

    So what's going on here? Is Warren in denial over what he exactly said and did back in November? Or is he now ashamed of his actions and is trying to distance himself from those actions? Or has he changed his position?

    If Warren is actually transitioning his position on gay marriage, then this is another example of Obama knowing exactly what he was doing when he invited Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration.

    I would vote (again) for the fact view that Barack Obama knew exactly what he was doing by inviting Warren to the inauguration, and when the time comes Warren will be more of an ally for gay rights legislation than we ever dreamed. 

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    1. Lionel Lenoir on Apr 11, 2009 4:45:07 PM:

      I find it much more likely that Rick lied and somehow didn't think he'd get caught. Pam's House Blend had a nice write up including video of Rick encouraging his flock to support Prop 8. http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/10379/rick-warrens-peeps-start-up-the-damage-control-machine-massive-fail

    1. Tim C on Apr 11, 2009 5:37:14 PM:

      Rather than condemn Warren right off the bat (liberals: "He's lying", conservatives: "He's lost his mind"), I'm willing to sit back and see where this goes. He can't have forgotten his earlier statements on Prop 8, so something is up.

    1. Maureen on Apr 11, 2009 9:20:19 PM:

      This is very interesting. I have always respected and admired Rick Warren, and wished that his loving and reasonable teaching would have an effect on hardcore right Evangelicals. The danger is that, because he is being seen now as either a liar or a "waffler", he will lose the opportunity. I don't think he's a liar, yet I'm having a tough time imagining that he's changed his mind between, what...December and now? Obama may be inspiring to many of you, but he's not that inspiring. Not having seen the video or the King interview, but assuming his words in each were directly contradictory, my vote would be that he made the video thinking it was what he should do, and now he is trying to make amends for the result.

      By the way, I don't see it in your post, but didn't Larry King follow up with "But you made a video...?"

      Tim's right: something's up.

    1. Lionel Lenoir on Apr 11, 2009 9:38:14 PM:

      If anyone is interested in seeing the Rick Warren interview in full CNN has it online: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/04/07/lkl.rick.warren.cnn

      They lead off with it. King doesn't seem to ask "But you made a video...?" BTW.

    1. Lionel Lenoir on Apr 11, 2009 9:41:44 PM:

      Although further on King does ask Rick if he'd asked his congregation to vote for Prop 8 and Rick did say yes. And now I'll quit spamming the comments.

    1. cany on Apr 12, 2009 2:52:33 AM:

      You're dreamin. NO WAY will Warren back off this. NO WAY. He would lose his So Bapt Conv. creds... and get his butt kicked to the curb.

      Not going to happen.

    1. Ken Werlein on Jun 7, 2009 3:30:46 PM:

      Rick Warren can (and does) turn on a dime. I seriously think he 1) forgets he's being recorded or 2) doesn't care of he gets called on the carpet 'cause he'll just play the evangelical "victim." This is not the only instance where Warren says one thing and does another. Search for his name along with flipflop and you'll get a lot of reading material.

      ~Ken (from KenWerlein.com)

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