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    July 25, 2008

    Disappearing the 'Golden' gays

    Posted by: Chris

    Goldengirls1 Need any additional evidence that gays are non-existent in the world of U.S. neo-conservatism? Look no further than this post by Kathryn Jean Lopez on the National Review website after the passing of actress Estelle Getty:

    Did any male ever watch The Golden Girls?

    Ironically enough, I came across this bit of know-nothing-ism less than 24 hours after hearing a gaggle of D.C. gays -- including more than a few Republicans -- mourning her loss and reliving their favorite "GG" moments.

    I will admit, however, that I was never a fan.



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    1. Randy on Jul 26, 2008 11:55:13 AM:

      well, back in the day ... I wasn't much of a fan either. I never hated the show but I didn't understand why my friends were so enamored with the show.

    1. Kary on Jul 26, 2008 5:09:47 PM:

      It as appealing to gays because it was one of the first shows with a gay sensibility....I would assume several of the writers were gay. It also was very pro-gay in several episodes....somebody had a gay brother visit, and it was presented in a very progressive way...particularly for the time. Somebody dated a guy that turned out to be gay, etc. Crumbs at the table back during the Republican oppression of Raygun.

    1. Tim on Jul 26, 2008 5:32:16 PM:

      Actually, there were gay writers on the show at different stages of its run, the last where Marc Cherry and Jamie Wooten, whom I met through a friend. Marc, I believe is still a writer on Desperate Housewives (gay characters recently added). Jamie is writing and producing plays, with one about to open in beautiful Asheville, NC. I was a big fan of the show and occasionally catch reruns. In its day, it was an "out there" show, with humor for "insiders" as well as the general public.

    1. Rick Sincere on Jul 27, 2008 5:01:17 PM:

      I was living in London, attending grad school, during the heyday of "The Golden Girls." Although I had limited access to a television in my residence hall, I remember vividly watching back-to-back Golden Girls episodes at Heaven and other gay clubs on Saturday nights.

      In the bar area where the TV sets were located, the otherwise loud music was turned down and the whole crowd stood enraptured. There were no commercials (I honestly don't know whether these shows were being broadcast on British television or if these were videotapes imported specially for gay audiences) and nobody moved until the break between episodes. There was laughter and there were cheers at all the appropriate moments.

      When I moved back to Washington, my boyfriend and I and our friends would always make sure to watch The Golden Girls on Saturday night before heading out to the clubs. It became a weekend ritual.

      So yes, there were plenty of males watching The Golden Girls, and not just in the U.S.A.

    1. Scott on Jul 28, 2008 4:08:22 AM:

      I love the Golden Girls. It is one of the greatest shows in history.

    1. LCRW on Jul 28, 2008 3:03:26 PM:

      It used to be last show we'd (friends and myself) watch on TV on a Saturday night before we went out the clubs.

      Gosh, I am old

    1. Colin on Jul 28, 2008 4:50:43 PM:

      Man, all these club-goers. I just watched the show on Saturday night with my mom. Yeah, I was *that* kid. :)

    1. Carl on Jul 28, 2008 7:36:13 PM:

      Even my father-in-law watched the Golden Girls!

    1. Ray on Jul 31, 2008 12:49:46 AM:

      I was never big fan of "G.G." either, but i was still sad to hear of Getty's passngbecause Iknow a lt of people who are great fans of the show

    1. Double T on Jul 31, 2008 2:46:56 PM:


      a little on the conservative side, but still great.

      (Back to Back episodes on Lifetime. Tell me the program director there isn't gay.)

    1. arthur on Aug 1, 2008 9:15:00 AM:

      Psssssst! If you are gay, you are not considered to be male.

    1. Jimmy Mac on Aug 1, 2008 7:07:47 PM:

      I still watch the reruns on Ion and wherever .. and my gay cred is far from suspect!

    1. mademark on Aug 8, 2008 8:01:55 PM:

      My partner and I sleep with the TV on (his addiction and something it was easier to adjust to rather than ask him to abandon) and many a night I sleep with the sound of Bea Arthur making some arch comment to one of the others. Very gay show, big gay following, and let's not forget the pilot episode with the gay cook who immediately vanished in episode #2.

    1. watch friends online on May 5, 2009 12:38:34 AM:

      i never watched this show at all. i did not think it was funny.

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